Comments on: Delphi and JBuilder as role models for Rails development? http://marcus.ahnve.net/2007/09/20/delphi-and-jbuilder-as-role-models-for-rails-development/ A northern, icebears-on-the-streets, view on programming, music etc. from Marcus Ahnve Thu, 20 Nov 2008 22:01:11 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Marcus http://marcus.ahnve.net/2007/09/20/delphi-and-jbuilder-as-role-models-for-rails-development/#comment-27029 Marcus Fri, 21 Sep 2007 07:35:46 +0000 http://marcus.ahnve.net/2007/09/20/delphi-and-jbuilder-as-role-models-for-rails-development/#comment-27029 <p>Mike, I actually had read your interview, but I did not make the connection when I read your post as I had missed the attribution at the top of the interview.</p> <p>As for how much IDE's really are worth, I am not so sure anymore. There are too many people using Java etc. that motivates their continued use of it because of the tool support: "I want code completion, refactoring etc.". I used to be like that too.</p> <p>But now I realize that the power Ruby gives me as a language far outweighs all advantages Java et al has in form of tool support, and the comfort given by the IDE obscured that fact for me.</p> Mike, I actually had read your interview, but I did not make the connection when I read your post as I had missed the attribution at the top of the interview.

As for how much IDE’s really are worth, I am not so sure anymore. There are too many people using Java etc. that motivates their continued use of it because of the tool support: “I want code completion, refactoring etc.”. I used to be like that too.

But now I realize that the power Ruby gives me as a language far outweighs all advantages Java et al has in form of tool support, and the comfort given by the IDE obscured that fact for me.

]]> By: Mike Pence http://marcus.ahnve.net/2007/09/20/delphi-and-jbuilder-as-role-models-for-rails-development/#comment-27019 Mike Pence Fri, 21 Sep 2007 03:53:34 +0000 http://marcus.ahnve.net/2007/09/20/delphi-and-jbuilder-as-role-models-for-rails-development/#comment-27019 <p>I see your point of view, and if you took some more time to examine my blog, you would see my <a href="http://blog.caboo.se/articles/2007/4/8/heresy-and-turtles-all-the-way-down-with-avi-bryant" rel="nofollow">interview with Avi Bryant</a>. I am no stranger to Smalltalk and I have pointed out clearly that there are many things about Smalltalk that we will be learning from for a long time.</p> <p>It happens in the evolution of any language that the tools get better, and that is what I am excited about. We are a long way from Smalltalk, but intelligent IDE's are a giant step along the way.</p> <p>Thanks for reading.</p> I see your point of view, and if you took some more time to examine my blog, you would see my interview with Avi Bryant. I am no stranger to Smalltalk and I have pointed out clearly that there are many things about Smalltalk that we will be learning from for a long time.

It happens in the evolution of any language that the tools get better, and that is what I am excited about. We are a long way from Smalltalk, but intelligent IDE’s are a giant step along the way.

Thanks for reading.

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